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Wednesday, March 16, 2005

Let's compare Iraq to other wars and other Presidents!

Remember These Facts

Comparing the number of U.S. wounded and dead with the size of the force deployed, in Vietnam the casualty rate was 6.2%; in World War I and World War II, just above 6.5%. On D-day, June 6, 1944, more than three times as many servicemen were lost as died in Iraq in the past year.


The Iraq war rate seems high only because our unstated benchmark is the 1991 Gulf War (total casualty rate: 0.14%). This is not meant to deprecate the sacrifices of our soldiers; for friends and family members, no statistics can assuage their grief. But, from a historical vantage point, what's remarkable is how few casualties we've suffered, not how many.


When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following ...


FDR... led us into World War II.
Germany NEVER attacked us: Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per
year.


Truman... finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea NEVER attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.


John F. Kennedy... started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam NEVER attacked us.

Johnson... turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton... went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia NEVER attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.


In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has ...
liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.


The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but... It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.


We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.


It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.


Our Commander-In-Chief is doing A--O.K


Hell he is doing better than A-OK. President Reagan had to wait until long after he was out of office to realize the good his presidency did. By the time his contribution to world good was realized, he was likely unaware of it.


It seems everything Bush does has an almost immediate and positive affect on our world. It will likely take years for the ignorant in our world to fully realize this.

26 Comments:

david_sakh said...

germany was the enemy of our allies and the ally of our enemy and threatened to take the free world.

Vietnam technically WAS started by NV, who shot at US ships.

bush is not responsible for the numbers lost in iraq. Technology and the fact that we take on a hugely inferior enemy force is responsible for that.

NK and NV were both shots at soviet expansionism, and were in some ways wrong, but should that justify any future action by any president? Espcially when he has to lie to the people to make the case for war?

"It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick."

I'm sure george w. bush was holding the squad assualt weapon when it happened.

GW has inherited a fine military, it was not his creation. He shouldn't be credited for our lower-chain successses, because he's not reponsible for them.

It's all well and good to say that yeah, things are mildly better for us for taking out iraq, but when the Chinese accuse us of trying to resseruct a matter disruption program in 2074, let's hope to god they don't start bombing washington, despite our open denials.

5:17 PM

 
david_sakh said...

germany was the enemy of our allies and the ally of our enemy and threatened to take the free world.

Vietnam technically WAS started by NV, who shot at US ships.

bush is not responsible for the numbers lost in iraq. Technology and the fact that we take on a hugely inferior enemy force is responsible for that.

NK and NV were both shots at soviet expansionism, and were in some ways wrong, but should that justify any future action by any president? Espcially when he has to lie to the people to make the case for war?

"It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick."

I'm sure george w. bush was holding the squad assualt weapon when it happened.

GW has inherited a fine military, it was not his creation. He shouldn't be credited for our lower-chain successses, because he's not reponsible for them.

It's all well and good to say that yeah, things are mildly better for us for taking out iraq, but when the Chinese accuse us of trying to resseruct a matter disruption program in 2074, let's hope to god they don't start bombing washington, despite our open denials.

5:17 PM

 
Anonymous said...

"It seems everything Bush does has an almost immediate and positive affect on our world. It will likely take years for the ignorant in our world to fully realize this."

That statement is a good demonstration that you live in a far different world than the rest of humanity. The poor brainwashed Nazi sympatizer also thought that Hitler was creating a better world... Stop listening to FoxNews and you might get a better vision of reality.

5:29 PM

 
Jer said...

Some brainless twit who was too lazy or afraid to leave his/her name said:

"That statement is a good demonstration that you live in a far different world than the rest of humanity. The poor brainwashed Nazi sympatizer also thought that Hitler was creating a better world... Stop listening to FoxNews and you might get a better vision of reality."

I am not really certain what Nazi's and Fox News have to do with this. I sir/madam, unlike you have my own mind and make up my own decisions about the world around me. I do not need to rely on news sources, or nazism to get me through the day.

I appreciate your response, but would hope that in the future you say something intelligent and engaging as people with an IQ above 2 do tend to visit here.

Stop being so negative and learn how to spell you "poor brainwashed Nazi sympatizer".

Have a nice day.

5:37 PM

 
Jer said...

david, david, david...

Learn to use capitals where capitals are appropriate. Last I remember "Germany" was still a proper name, and as such (even though they are a country of pompous globs of spandex wearing freaks) is still deserved of a capital "G".

I assume when you say "Vietnam" was created by... you mean the "War" itself, correct?

Vietnam was not started by "NV" as you say. It was started by "Vietnam", when they "Vietnam, declared their Independence Day September 2, 1945 (from of all countries -- France)

The Vietnam War was started by the French. Look it up. Guess who came to the rescue?

The "B" in "Bush" is also supposed to be capitalized. Show a modicum of respect for your President, and I will show some for you.

Yes, even "Iraq" should have a capital "I" in use as "Iraq" is a proper name as well. (This is third grade level, is it not?)

Technology and a "hugely inferior enemy force is responsible" for what? Stop drinking to excess. You'll feel better, think clearer, and drive safer.

What's with all the abbreviations? "NK", "NV" ???

Looks like you missed the capital "S" in "Soviet".

Wow, 3 in a row!!! "george w. bush"

First off, that's President George W. Bush to you. Note the first letter of each name above. Notice how they are slightly bigger than the letters that follow? They are called CAPITALS!!!

After all that inane and moronic, all bet it consistent lack of respect for the proper use of capital letters you now use "GW"? So now we are abbreviating the President's name, but actually capitalizing it in the process. Are you sure you are not smoking crack along side those beers?

Look, ultimately jealousy and rage about the truth is not going to gain you any brownie points hear. I don't care. Why on earth you feel the need to comment to a plagiarized post of pointless pontification that was precariously posted for my own pondering is beyond me.

Get a life.
Thank you for posting!

5:55 PM

 
david_sakh said...

like i care about my spelzlzliing

you know what you can go fuck yourself.

enjsdfoy youdr oild youzzz self righteous Asshole.

you act like technidzcalities mean more than the real issue and resort to personal insults so ill do the fucking same you fucktard good fucking job turning your blog into a one sided piece of shit agree with me or i eat your face bullshit fucking piece of shit place so stfu

i mention facts and you act like a child

so seriously, fuck you

or should i say

fcku yoz

"Technology and a "hugely inferior enemy force is responsible" for what? Stop drinking to excess. You'll feel better, think clearer, and drive safer."

for our victory you big dumbass its not my fault you fell off teh logic train

"I appreciate your response, but would hope that in the future you say something intelligent and engaging as people with an IQ above 2 do tend to visit here.
"

my iq's fucking 135 so you can go fuck off. I'm tired of you pseudo intellectuals iwth yoru oh so motherfucking important airs.

get back tot he facts and stop being a bitch. I can't believe you are old enough to have kids so seriously stfu i said nothing personal against you and i can mispell all the motherfucking words i want to so

fuck

off and stop being a bitksldklfasch

seriously what the fuck is wrong with you you on PMS, jeromy?

so there, eat your fucking childishness. I'm throudgh tadalking with youafkdjlasfjkl.

7:44 PM

 
david_sakh said...

PS you are not maddox and you are not funny. no1 cares when YOU say it.

7:45 PM

 
david_sakh said...

here's some more misspelafkl wordaszz

7:46 PM

 
david_sakh said...

hwo does thizz feeelz im being an itiodt justl ike you with mys stupid insults blah blahb lah stop drinking beerzorzz hahahaha im sor collll

7:47 PM

 
david_sakh said...

bigget most pompous asshole ever, godalmightly blar misspelled WRPDAKZ worxz yeah that means worz yeah looked at me im all up on ECTASY and GOOFBALLS HAR HAR HAR I HATE SEEING PEOPLE DIE AND I TYPE AT 90 WPM AND DON'T HAVE TO CHECK MY LITTLE FACTBOOOK BEFORE POSTING I MUST BE ON DRUGS

LOOK IM USING ALL CAPS I MUST BE STUPID

7:48 PM

 
david_sakh said...

bigget most pompous asshole ever, godalmightly blar misspelled WRPDAKZ worxz yeah that means worz yeah looked at me im all up on ECTASY and GOOFBALLS HAR HAR HAR I HATE SEEING PEOPLE DIE AND I TYPE AT 90 WPM AND DON'T HAVE TO CHECK MY LITTLE FACTBOOOK BEFORE POSTING I MUST BE ON DRUGS

LOOK IM USING ALL CAPS I MUST BE STUPID

7:48 PM

 
david_sakh said...

i really can't believe this you show no maturity at all but I'm determined to win so

BLALRHGHGGH YOU ARE DUMB AND AN IDIOT BLARHAHRHHDHFA HAR HAR HAR HAR IM POINTING MY FOINTINGER ATTTTZS YOUUZZZ HAR HAR HAR HAR

7:49 PM

 
david_sakh said...

YOU BIG ASS YOU DON'T GET IT.

WHY DO YOU PICK FIGHTS?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU

JESUS CHRIST IF YOU CAN'T DISCUSS ISSUES ON A BLOG WHAT'S THE POINT

god you're so gay. I hate people liek you, who can't see beyond their own petty bullshitries to have a decent fucking conversation.

7:51 PM

 
david_sakh said...

Look at me i go to great lengths to ensure proper spelling and grammer.

Maybe that will gloss over my psychosis and insecurity about my own intelligenceorzz lololol!!!!lasdfjklasfjkllasf

7:52 PM

 
david_sakh said...

This post has been removed by a blog administrator.

7:55 PM

 
david_sakh said...

LOOK AT MEEIZ IM STUPID WHY DONT YOU QUOTE THIS IN YOUR POMPOUSSUSSUS RESPONSEZOZOZ

8:07 PM

 
david_sakh said...

wvaht happen to rationalz discussoans, roight oh roight im on DRUGS yummm

8:07 PM

 
david_sakh said...

you're damn good at calling names, ahr har har har.

ooo technically it was untied vietnam at the time, har har har hr har harim sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong now yep thanks for putting me in my place!

quote that too!

yeayayayay!

8:09 PM

 
Jer said...

A very angry liberal decided to say:

" PS you are not maddox and you are not funny. no1 cares when YOU say it."

Apparently you care. You have been posting quite a bit. I'm glad you find my site so engaging. Please continue to let the world know what you are really trying to say.

8:09 PM

 
Jer said...

This post has been removed by a blog administrator.

8:09 PM

 
david_sakh said...

*spit*

why don't you do it to everyone who postsf, huh? That'll cultivate an exchange ofd ideas...oh wait.
harhahrmispellwordZ

CAPITALS

get over youzfdsrself, Jeromy H Christ.

harhahrh lllololzors i made a wikkle play on words how did i do that am I so dumb maybe I need my handy thesaurudfdfss anzzzd illogic books!

8:12 PM

 
david_sakh said...

I'm just giving you free content.

8:12 PM

 
david_sakh said...

So that's your world, liberals and conservatives, huh?

well I'm a believer in human goodness, and that transcends any one religion or poltical system. And you stand by and get viciously prickly over an unprovoked invasion. Jesus Christ Dubya isn't going to Gestapo your ass for some introspection oaroaordozorz discussion.

ogh yaeh loorozlzo bad szplellinzing

no one is going to post here if you don't have an inkling of respect or give the tiniestststs hintzorz of consideration to what others have to say.

And no one cares about technicalities. That's primary school bullshit and you know it.

8:15 PM

 
david_sakh said...

"I care"

yeah i do, I'm shocked that such a mature person turns into an asshole once he's secure in his own domain.

My mouth hit the floor when I read your response.

loll harhar david your mouth must be really big har har that's impossible technicallity o i win

8:17 PM

 
Dave said...

You really are a pissant if your biggest defense against david_sakh's comments is to pick at him using abbreviations or not capitalising Bush's name.

I can just imagine the spittle flying if you ever tried to hold a mature debate with another intelligent human being. Must be hard having to come up with real arguments, huh?

12:45 AM

 
Jer said...

Why is it that ignorant people always complain about violence and war, but then go out an post on a blog violent and disgusting things?

I might as well ask why the sky is blue.

Dave you need to stop getting your information from Sci-Fi news channels.

Relax a little. If you had posted something a bit more intelligent and insightful information containing facts and good points rather than your opinion and vulgar language people might actually take you seriously.

Have a nice day!

8:52 AM

 

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