SCAM ALERT - CRS - Central Registration Service is a SCAM - BEWARE
So yesterday I receive this notice in the mail. It looks like a bill; an invoice. But is it? It is printed on some pretty official looking invoice paper, has all kinds of information about my company, phone number, address, and a domain name I own called "wisconsinwireless.net".
The invoice simply states:
"standard registration via hosting service for"
URL: http://www.wisconsinwireless.net
contact address: Maria's Internet Access
referencenumber: ycxa 3796110********* (omitted)
Then there is a total listed in the amount of: 966,00$
I assume they mean, $966.00
There is a number on the invoice: 212-627-8877. So I call it. It rings... and rings... and rings.. Then eventually goes to a busy signal.
I read the invoice more carefully this time. That number, it says, to "forward the completed and signed form via fax to". Ah, so maybe it is a fax number. So I fax a penis length chart to them, using two different fax machines and numbers. Neither fax gets through; both fail.
So the next method of payment is to go online to: http://www.central-registration-service.com/payment
Which I do. I find that you can pay by check. They have listed the following address to send your money to:
CRS Corporation
1133 Broadway, Suite706
New York, NY 10010
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Or you can pay buy bank transfer using their swift code (LOYAVCVX) and Loyal Bank Limited (in Belize City, Central America) account number: 1040003940306. Yeah right.
Or finally you may simply choose to whip out your favorite credit card and simply pay fast and easily on line. Of course the online link takes you to paypal.
Now here is something interesting I did not mention before. The way I got to the payment options when visiting http://www.central-registration-services.com/payment was by entering completely bogus information. When you get to that page it will ask you for a reference number and company name. I put in the "example" they provided, "John Doe" and for a reference number "abcd-123456789". Then I clicked submit.

Instead of returning an error for inputing a reference number that would obviously not exist if this were a legitimate database query, it brought me to another page which asked me for my company name and URL. I entered something like, FUCK YOU for the company name, and "www.central-registration-services.com" as my URL.

When I clicked submit again, it showed me that $966.00 invoice amount, even though I inputed bogus information. When I clicked next it brought me to the payment options page.


So who exactly is this CRS place? Well, looking at their address they listed as being in NYC on Broadway, I was able to find out that the company that actually occupies this suite is:
Secure PC Solutions (http://www.securepcsolutions.com)
Registrant:
securepcsolutions
1133 broadway
suite 706
New York, New York 10 010
United States
http://beta.blogger.com/img/gl.link.gif
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SECUREPCSOLUTIONS.COM
Created on: 16-Oct-03
Expires on: 16-Oct-07
Last Updated on:
Administrative Contact:
lansdown, james james@securepcsolutions.com
1133 broadway
suite 706
new york, New York 10 010
United States
+1.2124652680
Technical Contact:
lansdown, james james@securepcsolutions.com
1133 broadway
suite 706
new york, New York 10 010
United States
+1.2124652680
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.SECUREPCSOLUTIONS.COM
NS2.SECUREPCSOLUTIONS.COM
So I called them up looking for Jame Lansdown and this CRS place. Oh, in case you did not see from above, their number is 212-465-2680. It rings and rings, but then I get a voice mail attendant answering Secure PC Solutions, telling me that they are either busy or it is after hours, please leave a message. I hang up.
Now this CRS place, their domain name anyway, was only registered about a month ago:
Domain name: central-registration-service.com
Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (3d545a0bc89c4037838a2139b3f5d465.protect@whoisguard.com)
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US
Administrative Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (3d545a0bc89c4037838a2139b3f5d465.protect@whoisguard.com)
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US
Technical Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (3d545a0bc89c4037838a2139b3f5d465.protect@whoisguard.com)
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
ns1.central-registration-service.com
ns2.central-registration-service.com
Nice how everything is hidden... Yeah, this is a company I am going to give nearly a grand to for my domain name "standard registration via hosting service", as they call it.
Looks like the server they are on belongs to some AMX HOST (http://www.amxhost.com) who claims to have this stellar network and multiple locations around the US. Meanwhile, they are nothing more than a reseller for Liquid Web:
From what I can tell, they are hosted by a company called Liquid Web (www.liquidweb.com) They are one of those ghetto scum web hosts that will hosting anything for nothing...
OrgName: Liquid Web, Inc.
OrgID: LQWB
Address: 4210 Creyts Rd.
City: Lansing
StateProv: MI
PostalCode: 48917
Country: US
ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.liquidweb.com:4321/
NetRange: 72.52.128.0 - 72.52.191.255
CIDR: 72.52.128.0/18
NetName: LIQUIDWEB-6
NetHandle: NET-72-52-128-0-1
Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.LIQUIDWEB.COM
NameServer: NS1.LIQUIDWEB.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2006-08-03
Updated: 2006-08-03
OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE551-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-580-4985
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@liquidweb.com
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OrgTechHandle: IPADM47-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Administrator
OrgTechPhone: +1-800-580-4985
OrgTechEmail: ipadmin@liquidweb.com
So if you happen to see one of these notices come in the mail from a CRS please do not send them any money. This is a SCAM. Other tell tail signs that should alert you to this obvious attempt at fraud are the fact that the envelop the invoice comes in is sent from Central America, not NYC where these guys claim to reside. The bank they want you to send money to is located in Central America, not in NYC where they claim to reside. The phone number they provide on the invoice is not valid.
The back of the invoice has a bunch of disclaimers, all of which are written in perfect "ENGRISH"
I highly doubt you will get any service from these guys, even if you do send them money. If they really are doing "Domain Registration", their should be some type of transfer initiation during the payment process. There is none.
I would have put a image of the invoice up, but my damn scanner does not like OSX for some reason... You can thank the fuck tards at Microtek for that. Idiots.
If anyone has more information on thihttp://beta.blogger.com/img/gl.link.gifs CRS place and this apparently bogus software company, Secure PC Solutions, please let me know. Or if you are in the area, ie., around the 1100 block of Broadway, stop in at the following address and see if James Lansdown is there:
1133 broadway
suite 706
New York, New York 10010
That or send James and email: james@securepcsolutions.com
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61 Comments:
We actually just got this in the mail at my place of employment. Our accountant came to me asking if she should pay it or not. Luckily she didn't just pay it outright, but I can imagine that happening in certain companies that lack communication. If you follow this link: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=1133+Broadway+Suite+706%2Bbogus%3F&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
you'll notice there are quite a few scams that reside at that address. I'm not quite sure if that software company is legit. I have a few friends in NYC, I'm trying to get one of them to take a stroll by the building and see what's going on. Who knows...
Good post though, hopefully this will shed some light on the situation for a few peole before they're taken advantage of.
9:24 AM
Thank you Jer's
I'd call 411 nothing no number.
There may be a place to report them?
Well no luck to the bad guys this time .
From Ariel joinning the Scam Club CRS jajajaja
Loyal Banck bla bla bla DO NOT PAY TO THIS PEOPLE!!
Thank you again
Ariel Dejtiar
2:29 PM
I got this also. The Penis Chart is a great idea to fax.
2:37 PM
I got the same letter and contacted
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=resources&id=3395952
to see if they can follow up in New York.. may be the press can do something to track this f....rs..
2:44 PM
If you have good reason to believe a crime is being commited, you should call the NYPD and report it. They WILL evetually get around to paying them a visit. I too got the same bill.
3:40 PM
As a local New Yorker, I found out that CRS has nothing to do with the address you noted, and or the people you listed, which is unfair for legitimate companies. Remember blogging is simply hearsay which can be damaging to legitimate companies / people. In essence blogging, is cyber gossip.
After receiving this invoice ourselves, we stopped by the address to inquire about the invoice, and it so happens that the company located at the address has absolutely nothing to do with CRS. The company located at this address offers incorporation services in the State of New York.
Apparently, CRS got the address from a New York State listing and proceeded to use the official company's address fraudulently. This incident has since been addressed by the tenant company and the hosting company for CRS’ domain. As a consequence it seems that CRS has ceased from criminally using this company's address as their own and has now moved on to fraudulently use another address.
These crooks (CRS) are now using the following address:
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US
Apparently CRS were using the New York address in hopes that the general public would not mail in a check and simply go to their website for payment where they would have direct access to your information – and who knows what would happen with your personal information from there…
8:12 PM
As a local New Yorker, I found out that CRS has nothing to do with the address you noted, and or the people you listed, which is unfair for legitimate companies. Remember blogging is simply hearsay which can be damaging to legitimate companies / people. In essence blogging, is cyber gossip.
After receiving this invoice ourselves, we stopped by the address to inquire about the invoice, and it so happens that the company located at the address has absolutely nothing to do with CRS. The company located at this address offers incorporation services in the State of New York.
Apparently, CRS got the address from a New York State listing and proceeded to use the official company's address fraudulently. This incident has since been addressed by the tenant company and the hosting company for CRS’ domain. As a consequence it seems that CRS has ceased from criminally using this company's address as their own and has now moved on to fraudulently use another address.
These crooks (CRS) are now using the following address:
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US
Apparently CRS were using the New York address in hopes that the general public would not mail in a check and simply go to their website for payment where they would have direct access to your information – and who knows what would happen with your personal information from there…
8:12 PM
I got one too. It appears from the fine print that they actually claim to be selling a listing in an "Internet Business Database", though it looks a lot like the scams I've seen in previous years from sleazy domain registrars attempting to get renewals on expiring domains.
The main difference is that large legit but sleazy companies were scamming registration renewals, while this just asks for an absurd fee and offers no tangible services other than a directory of web site names. As of today the site appears dead and nothing loads at http://www.central-registration-service.com/ currently.
Some of the other details you don't mention are that they attempt to cash in on the New York address and 9/11 sympathy by including a footer noting it's 5 years since 9/11 and with the claim that 11% of every invoice paid is donated to a charitable organization that helps the victims of terrorist acts against our country. Oh, and the footer below that says in bold letters: GOD BLESS AMERICA.
I suspect this is good because while invoicing for inclusion in a vague business database might be hard to prosecute as fraud the claim that they re supporting charitable organizations is almost certainly fraudulent. But with the money going to an offshore bank there's probably not much that can be done but to quickly shut down the payment gateway.
I would suggest contacting FTC.gov and forwarding copies of the invoices to them so they can take appropriate legal action. Sadly these folks will probably make enough money to make it well worth their time, and they'll probably do it again under other names.
Notifying the hosting ISP of the fraudulent nature of the web payment pages may help get that axed, but they'll probably just move them. Hopefully the domain registrars will kill the account for the fraudulent activity so they can't just update DNS to move it.
9:00 AM
I am another victim! I looked like a scam and it smelled like a scam. Of course, I did not pay it. I informed my website carrier about it. Thanks for your Blog.
John
12:34 PM
We received ours today... they mailed it all the way to Singapore!
11:25 PM
Jer, thanks for the headsup. Company just received this 'invoice', and accounting just asked me what this is all about! Forwarded them your story. Saved us a grand! ;)
9:32 PM
i have just received that invoice, and i have googled it, then i have found out what you said CRS is a SCAM..thanks for your alert you submitted here.
3:26 AM
Hi guys, I'm P.Erananta from Indonesia. I live in Jakarta City adn working in a health & beauty company. I've just received CRS bill that owing me $966,00 for standard registration via hosting service. Is it true? I did not ever posting and register for hosting a web outside Indonesia. Please advise and help what should I do? because i'm affraid what they sad that our domain will be deleted. My company web www.immunotec.co.id Thank you.
6:35 PM
Hi all, i am at Hong Kong Now. I got the CRS's email too.
7:20 PM
Thank you very much, Writer!
8:03 PM
Wow even in Australia Ty Ty TY so much for that info.
I read your info and we are not that computer literate so when the bill came I went damn !!! right before Christmas.
Then......... your blog came like an Angel from Heaven
TY and may you have a Merry Christmas a Happy Holiday Very Thankful
Mike & Angela
8:14 PM
Thanks a lot for this blog..the funny thing is, my company wasn't about to pay it anyway because the letter was addressed to some bitch that has been using my comp name to sell toys on the internet. I just wished that she has fell for this scam and pay that grand...
Thanks again for this post.
8:39 PM
I too rec a same kind of letter and was shocked I contacted my service provider and to myrelief he sent me the link to check that this is scam
2:50 AM
This is getting hot hot and hot!!
Just got it today.
P.Erananta, don't worry about paying it.
There is nobody, nobody at all is able to bill you except your current domain name provider.
I believe some big companies might have fallen into this scam, as all invoices are sent to their accountant right away. Should start a chain mail to stop this!! :)
If we can start a chain mail on some personal gossip, why not on this scam?
5:09 AM
I just got the mentioned mail to my company. I was suspicious, and searched it on Google, and found Jer's blog. I had no intention of paying anything to them, but i think many big companies may fall into this trap.
As it is clear in the comments, the bastards have sent these to all over the world. (by the way; I'm from Turkey). They must have made a considerable fortune on this.
Whatever, thanks for lightening this swindle...
6:51 AM
I just got mine in the mail in Australia.
Not fucking stupid here either, so this Dickweed had wanna hope my next trip to the U.S. is not to bust a cap on his arse.
Oh yeah, and the $966, do you want that in Ethiopian beads?
The ol 411 scams again.
Cocksucker!
10:14 AM
I received my BOGUST, SCAM, FRAUD, Invoice today from CRS.
I reported it to Go Daddy my hosting company at abuse@godaddy.com
and to the ftc.gov
https://rn.ftc.gov/
Thanks Lee
11:31 AM
I was sure it was a scam but Googled CRS anyway to see what came up. As suspected... Fortunately the office manager didn't pay this without asking. If you're in IT or the marketing department that usually deals with domain name registration PLEASE tell accounting to not pay for anything like this without checking.
1:14 PM
We jut got our scam in the mail today too! - All the way in BC, Canada.
Thanks or the blog - it was very helpful to show all your investigating to my biz admin who was about to send payment!
1:38 PM
Thanks for the post. It clears things up very succinctly.
I just got mine today. It appears to be from the Czech Republic. Their bank is now the "Loyal Bank Limited", which has branches in the West Indies and Hungary.
Ken
http://www.vec.ca/
2:22 PM
Just got one here in Australia
4:19 PM
Hi, I read the one that I got in the mail and did a google search on the company name and got this blog.
As I suspected it is a fraud and not a very good one at that. However, there is an envelope that the bogus invoice came in and was delivered through the US postal service which is mail fraud.
So if anyone has the time, contact the US postal service and show them what was received and have them issue a subpoena to anybody and everybody connected with this bogus invoice and find out who is paying the bills for the phones,rent,etc. and then go after those scum bags.
Whatever you do,don't send them a dime by any means, shape or form.
6:34 PM
Well your not alone buddy, thanks for the info and ground work you have done on this scam.
I also received the same "account" from them today and I live in Australia.
Was immediately sus on the "account" so did a quick search and your blog came up with all the info I needed to satisfy myself.
Saved me heaps of time so looks like i actually owe you??
Now where exactly can I send payment to you? lol
Hope its not $966.00??
Cheers and Seasons greetings from Down Under.M
7:21 PM
Hi,
I also just got one in the mail....
As soon as i opened it i figured it was some sort of scam.... So i quickly jumped on the web and did a search, that's how i stumble upon this page...
I am most certainly not sending any money...
Just a quick question to everyone? You didn't happen to post your company details on Alibaba.com did you?
Ever since i posted the business details I've been getting nothing but junk and scam... I am definetely removing my details from the site
1:41 AM
Hi,
I live in a small town in Turkey. Even I got this mail! It said that I owe this company $720. Of course I understood that this fuckin' thing was a scam!
7:41 AM
I got one of these too. My boss (who is completely computer illiterate) almost paid it until I saw it. I am sure these guys have made some money from it.
Where can we report it?
7:42 AM
Thanks Jeremy from Calgary Alberta.
I was suspicious and did a Google search on the company and cam across your blog.
Martin
8:41 AM
Oh, thanks god.
As soon as i get this invoice, i tried to find its url address ,which is stated in the invoice, in google and there came to me Jer's Blog. Thanks for sharing Jer.
I felt relief knowing that's just a shit scam. I live in indonesia and i think i never had any deal business in usa, so this invoice must not mine, and for sure anybody else.
GBU
Jemie
8:32 PM
Thank God I found you guyz!
Earlier this morning I've got the bloody same mail (as in via post) on my office desk. Everything listed on it about my company details (URL, address, phone/fax nbrs) are correct. That mail was dated on Nov 15, 2006.
The weird thing is that the mail wasn't being sent from the US (I presume). Printed on the envelope was P.O. Box 343, 22000 Praha 120, Rep. Tchegue (I guess its another name for Republic of Chekoslovakia).
One thing for sure is, this sort of invoice was being printed after the date that I cancelled my web-hosting plan with Yahoo (with no negative reasons, I just don't need it anymore). Would it be a coincidence? Or these faggots are actually watching some of us??
I really wanna spread this news as furthest as I can, to avoid other ordinary people like me being caught in this scam. Please help me out, fellas!
Cheers and take care,
Hans (Jakarta, Indonesia).
11:28 PM
Hi,
I live in istanbul, Turkey and I have just received this invoice . I think they are making good money from that cause they are sending to most of the countries in the world.
I just want to know if anyone paid this.
11:53 PM
I just received this in the mail at our Vancouver Canada address.
I would suggest the only thing you can do is to chase down the registrants of the URL. Maybe someone at ICANN can do the digging to find out who paid the Web Registrars for the registration, and get this scum out of our workplace.
(Are the phone numbers listed at WHOIS even valid?)
4:13 PM
Hi to all from TURKEY . I just received the bill yesterday that I have to pay 720 USD to this scammers. I was very curious about the case because of that I called our website carrier and he returned to me today early in the morning with this blog . Well I would like to thank to Jer first of all and also to our web carrier SARHAS Computing Mr. Bilal EKMEKCI.Because of them I didn't have to pay the bill. But all the victims should have to report this case to their webcarriers I think. Thanks to Jer again...
12:02 AM
our company and partner company, in Calgary, Alberta, Canada each received one of these.
buggers.
1:03 PM
Word for Word..I just got the same invoice. What a scam! Do I ignore this? Who should I report this to? My penis chart is too big to put through the fax machine. ;>
5:43 PM
Got mine in the mail today!!! Immediatley I called the FBI fraud line and gave them all of the information that was contained in the document. Also, because you are such a diligent detective, I was able to call "The CRS Corp." directly where I left the shitiest message ever on their phone service. Thanx Jer . . .I owe you one!!!
8:27 AM
Hi,
I opened mine today. I was impressed with the 'mit luftpost' - kinda hoping it was a German client of mine wanting to reorder...
As Frodo would say ' it looked fair but felt foul.'
Mine came from Prague. 9/11? Broadway? Par Avion? Send money? No way.
Just to be sure I googled these bums and clicked your link.
Thanks.
8:48 PM
I got one in India too.
1:47 AM
Got it in the mail today, went online to see what it was, thanks for the heads up. Oh I also contacted the R.C.M.P. Red Deer, Ab.
11:31 AM
Defamation of character and internet defamation are becoming commonplace. With the proliferation of Weblogs, anyone can say anything, and the next thing you know the major search engines have indexed it at the top of their results.
How often does internet defamation and related defamation of character happen? A lot more than you realize. Oftentimes the only way to know about it is to search the engines. Just a sampling of the issues we have worked on follows:
*A prominent online business was targeted on a weblog through internet defamation, and the posts escalated to the point that death threats were being made and a map to the company headquarters was posted. Google had indexed the blog in the first position whenever someone searched for our client.
*A blogger, like this one, ran a story years ago on our client which contained major factual inaccuracies that were derogatory in nature and the story is now indexed by major search engines and readily available.
*A disgruntled customer posted a string of defamatory comments on its website and demanded an exorbitant sum to take them down.
*A major financial industry company had a disgruntled customer launch an all out attack on the company on the website, in chat rooms, on bulletin boards, and in the press.
*An "industry rating" website had our client baffled...the great majority of complaints were about them. After investigation, it became clear that the site was owned and controlled by its chief competitor.
*A world-renowned professional in a controversial subject matter found that a website was publishing false claims about him, damaging his reputation and credibility. Since he was often an expert commentator on TV, this was a significant problem that had to be addressed.
*Industry bulletin board posts from a former customer claimed that our client was running a "scam" operation.
*A former employee launched a website attacking our international client.
*A consumer protection "review" site seemed to always return extremely negative and detailed reviews of any company not advertising on the site.
*An unhappy customer launched an extensive website critical of our client, including false and misleading claims and altered documents.
*A long established and upstanding franchise company was attacked on scam reporting sites by a disgruntled former franchise holder.
*Our client's business was initially referred to by a popular blogger as a "scam", an inaccurate description requiring immediate attention since the results were showing up at the top of Google's results.
*A business was told it would have to pay a very significant amount of money for a defamatory posting to be removed from a rip off reporting site.
If it really matters, then you need an Internet lawyer to deal with Internet issues. Whether you are faced with rampant internet defamation or a specific case of defamtion of character of your business, give an internet lawyers a call to discuss your needs. And the victims of both this blog and its messages should contact an attorney to discuss possible defimation of charater.
11:44 AM
Hi there,
Just got our CRS invoice up here in Canada and was preparing a home made cheque from the First Third Bank (another scam on the email circuit)and was going to mail it. Lucky I checked google and find that the address is no longer in use. Wouldn't want to get some bystander in trouble. Gee..CRS makes Handballs!
Cheers,
R&H
2:33 PM
hey, we just got the same exact invoice for $966.00 for domain registration from the same company. Only we caught it in time, the office girls were not sure and probably would have paid it if I hadn't seen it and said something. Kuddos to you for putting up the scan alert on your page.
2:46 PM
Just to be clear, there is no defamation of character going on here. CRS is a scam outfit.
3:08 PM
Thanks for sharing the good work Jer. Having received the SCAM invoice, Your Blog was easy to find on Google. so Thank you again for your work.
www.earthpacs.com
7:08 PM
Good Work Jer,
thank you for sharing your work on this on the blog.
best wishes for the holiday season.
7:09 PM
Our church in Spokane Wa just got this SCAM invoice. luckily the church secretary floated it by me before paying and I could see right away it was a scam. Have attempted to notify the WA Attorney General and the local PD, but have gotten no response as of yet. By the way, for a good laugh, read the back side and the "perfect" business English used to explain the terms and conditions.
7:48 PM
Yeah, the back of that CRS Central Registration Service invoice is written in perfect ENGRISH... It is a laugh.
Hopefully no one has fallen for this scam.
8:51 PM
Good work Jer
I live in Indiana when I got this letter in the mail I knew it was a scam before I opened it.
Got the vibes
966.00 what an idoit!!
What I would like to do is put this guy in jail in New York some long forgotten hole!
Good work!!
www.theuniques.com
Mortamus
8:04 AM
Hi there - thanks for the posts! I just received this invoice today (I reside in Calgary, Alberta Canada) and was suspicious right away. I can't believe that these scams are now infiltrating the snail mail system! I guess that's what you get when u don't do a private registration!!! Mine came from Czech Republic, with the services provided in Berlize, Central America, and the address from NYC. WEIRD......
1:00 AM
I recieved the same thing in the mail today. On this So called invoice they also request you pay by Credit Card to Loyal Bank Limited
Acc #104003940306
swift: LOYAVCVX
I looked up Loyal Bank Limited
and filed a complaint with them
Here is there info
Registrant:
Loyal Bank Limited - ferenc.kiraly@profis.hu
Villa
Cedar Hill Crest
P.O. Box 1825
Kingstown, svg 1825
VC
+1-784-485-6705
Fax:+1-784-451-2757
Domain Name: LOYALBANK.COM
Administrative Contact:
Kiraly, Frank Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
Villa
Cedar Hill Crest
P.O. Box 1825
Kingstown, svg 1825
VC
+1-784-485-6705
Fax:+1-784-451-2757
Technical Contact:
Kiraly, Frank - ferenc.kiraly@profis.hu
Villa
Cedar Hill Crest
P.O. Box 1825
Kingstown, svg 1825
VC
+1-784-485-6705
Fax:+1-784-451-2757
Record last updated 07-24-2006 05:28:41 AM
Record expires on 08-17-2009
Record created on 08-18-1998
Domain servers in listed order:
WWW.LOYALBANK.COM 213.235.239.137
DEATHSTAR.MCLX.HU 195.70.36.40
https://www.loyalbank.com/eng/customerservice.html
https://www.loyalbank.com/eng/contact.html
9:19 AM
Received a reply today from Loyal Bank. They close the scammers account!
Please read the following:
Dear Barb,
Thank you for your inquiry concerning CRS Corporation and the invoices
which they are apparently issuing in respect of unrequested and
unprovided website registration services.
The Bank has carried out a through investigation of this company and
have concluded that the company is involved in activities that are
harmful to our reputation. We have consequently closed this account and
have reported the company and its apparent owner, Mr. Alexander Keibel,
to the regulatory and investigatory authorities in St. Vincent.
Loyal Bank wishes to assure you that at no time until complaints were
received by us were we aware of the the true nature of the activities of
CRS Corporation and that the bank had no connection with
these activities, did not endorse or condone them in any way and is in
not connected with CRS Corporation or Mr. Alexander Keibel.
Best regards,
Akos Biro
CUSTOMER SERVICE
LOYAL BANK
3:28 PM
Got the scam letter today in old mail - the envelope had a return address of Prague, Czech Republic - but no postmark so who knows where it came from
4:56 PM
We don't typically mind the use of quotes from our website with attribution. The post above concerning internet defamation lawyers is directly from our website. Tks.
Dozier Internet Law, PC
www.cybertriallawyer.com
8:36 AM
It would appear that someone from your firm in fact posted the comment.
Note the name of the comment poster: internetlawyer with a link back to your site.
www.cybertriallawyer.com
9:10 AM
This comes from Edmonton Alberta Canada 06/03/07......
Dose this shit ever end. I received my CRS invoice a little over 2 months ago. Good thing my business partners wife (she dose our books) was on the ball and asked all the right questions. I even received a phone call from these jerks to try and sell me a support CD. At the time I was not aware that this was a scam, but I must admit that I did smell a fish. No payment was made to these ass holes and I can only hope that the worst of luck comes to these predators and that they all die a horrible and bloody death.
Thanks for the heads up Jer's. The sooner we can weed these cocksuckers out..... All the better.
Take care all and keep your eyes and ears open. Question everything! ! !
D. McCaw
Terramen Contracting Ltd.
1:04 PM
i love that you did your research! so many of us miss the most obvious things.
6:19 AM
why do you need a scanner to post a picture of your email. just use the buttons on your keyboard to take a screen shot.
9:36 PM
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